You can cycle thought variations with Shift.
@bufferunderrun good to know, this is gonna take some getting used to.
Wow. Thanks @bufferunderrun for the tip. Very hard to find. I tried tab but would have never thought of Shift. Not sure if that's the most discoverable (whereas up and down was super intuitive).
You can get the shortcuts by pressing ? on the keyboard, e.g. on analysis board page.
In any case, this might be reverted back to up/down, or at least up/down would be added back. There is a PR regarding this already, but needs to be merged and deployed.
In any case, this might be reverted back to up/down, or at least up/down would be added back. There is a PR regarding this already, but needs to be merged and deployed.
There is a Pull Request pending to restore this somewhat I think: github.com/lichess-org/lila/pull/13485
I'm hoping we'll get the old behavior back.
I'm hoping we'll get the old behavior back.
how did you use to navigate using up and down.. would it change track.. my experience is that it would rewind completely, which can be done easily with mouse scroll wheel... unless you wanted to find the root at branching point.
which you can do now with shift-left-arrow, or shift-j. However it only works partially (it say rewind to mainline): if you have a mainline continuation and are already in a secondary variation sibliing of that continuation. without mainline continuation and only "secondary" variations, the topmost of those will not have that shortcut work, as there is no mainline, but still a branching point.. having a mainline or not should not matter. A rewind to previous cross-road might be more robust to context, and also accomplish "rewind to mainline" when there is one (and if already on mainline, why would one want to rewind to mainline, just stay there, that is what the current thing does).
but the way you phrased the title, i had a glimpse of some parallel world, where those up and down arrown could change sibling keeping depth as close as possible (if deeper, then last node of shorter sibling, if longer than same depth). Thanks for the glimpse and possibility that I may not been such a minority of tree exploration in other directions than depth.
lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/option-to-turn-off-new-arrows?page=5#47 (i pasted a screenshot of the context help box. (with "?" key while in context). now it stays there for reading..
which you can do now with shift-left-arrow, or shift-j. However it only works partially (it say rewind to mainline): if you have a mainline continuation and are already in a secondary variation sibliing of that continuation. without mainline continuation and only "secondary" variations, the topmost of those will not have that shortcut work, as there is no mainline, but still a branching point.. having a mainline or not should not matter. A rewind to previous cross-road might be more robust to context, and also accomplish "rewind to mainline" when there is one (and if already on mainline, why would one want to rewind to mainline, just stay there, that is what the current thing does).
but the way you phrased the title, i had a glimpse of some parallel world, where those up and down arrown could change sibling keeping depth as close as possible (if deeper, then last node of shorter sibling, if longer than same depth). Thanks for the glimpse and possibility that I may not been such a minority of tree exploration in other directions than depth.
lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/option-to-turn-off-new-arrows?page=5#47 (i pasted a screenshot of the context help box. (with "?" key while in context). now it stays there for reading..
@dboing said in #7:
> how did you use to navigate using up and down.. would it change track.. my experience is that it would rewind completely, which can be done easily with mouse scroll wheel... unless you wanted to find the root at branching point.
I used up/down when you reached a move with multiple possible follow-up. Up and down allowed you to cycle through the moves, and once you highlighted the one you wanted to proceed with, you could then use right to follow that line.
> how did you use to navigate using up and down.. would it change track.. my experience is that it would rewind completely, which can be done easily with mouse scroll wheel... unless you wanted to find the root at branching point.
I used up/down when you reached a move with multiple possible follow-up. Up and down allowed you to cycle through the moves, and once you highlighted the one you wanted to proceed with, you could then use right to follow that line.
@lepad said in #8:
> I used up/down when you reached a move with multiple possible follow-up. Up and down allowed you to cycle through the moves, and once you highlighted the one you wanted to proceed with, you could then use right to follow that line.
wow. I never knew this would exist. supposedly now the shift key should do that. but they might have thrown that with the proverbial bathwater, through the window, given the past mob uproar demanding to hand the now features.
It should be back by now. I should test that.. if i understood well. Perhaps scrolling would also work after such up down selection.
I wonder if the shift key did the same beyond just highlighting the blue buttons indicating which variation. I find if it is what I think, then, why not extend the up and down key behavior to be still about which branch (dealing with different depth variation is no problem, using last for shorter, etc..).. Then one does not even need to rely on the blue things.. One can keep eyes on the board.
That was the theme of the good idea that got killed, apparently. Anything with that purpose is a good idea. We are visual learner most of us, attracted by chess, and online or digital medium, is way more flexible that board and paper to let the minds soar, from having to switch from 1D string decrypt struggle (broca blood flow, and neuro-transmitter turn over) to our preffered mode of at a glance 2D (r/)evolution(s) on the board.. I suggest lichess and that mob, (I picture a Simpsons mob, with "kill the witch, kill the witch" demands (did I dream such episode?)) read the blogs about cognitive science, in chess, the most recent one. I don't think the decrypt string job, is what would be meant as active attention engagement task, kind of missing the FOV angle where that would work.. (not the same CSS module, one is code for the real thing, so why not let the fingers and mind eye tree model (2D still, imagining branches) do the navigation action, while the eyes keep tracking board changes... That is something we can do with keyboard, mouse and eye gaze on board.
> I used up/down when you reached a move with multiple possible follow-up. Up and down allowed you to cycle through the moves, and once you highlighted the one you wanted to proceed with, you could then use right to follow that line.
wow. I never knew this would exist. supposedly now the shift key should do that. but they might have thrown that with the proverbial bathwater, through the window, given the past mob uproar demanding to hand the now features.
It should be back by now. I should test that.. if i understood well. Perhaps scrolling would also work after such up down selection.
I wonder if the shift key did the same beyond just highlighting the blue buttons indicating which variation. I find if it is what I think, then, why not extend the up and down key behavior to be still about which branch (dealing with different depth variation is no problem, using last for shorter, etc..).. Then one does not even need to rely on the blue things.. One can keep eyes on the board.
That was the theme of the good idea that got killed, apparently. Anything with that purpose is a good idea. We are visual learner most of us, attracted by chess, and online or digital medium, is way more flexible that board and paper to let the minds soar, from having to switch from 1D string decrypt struggle (broca blood flow, and neuro-transmitter turn over) to our preffered mode of at a glance 2D (r/)evolution(s) on the board.. I suggest lichess and that mob, (I picture a Simpsons mob, with "kill the witch, kill the witch" demands (did I dream such episode?)) read the blogs about cognitive science, in chess, the most recent one. I don't think the decrypt string job, is what would be meant as active attention engagement task, kind of missing the FOV angle where that would work.. (not the same CSS module, one is code for the real thing, so why not let the fingers and mind eye tree model (2D still, imagining branches) do the navigation action, while the eyes keep tracking board changes... That is something we can do with keyboard, mouse and eye gaze on board.
I meant "lynch mob" somewhere in some Simpsons episode. The derision was that, no matter what happened or turn or twist, the mob reaction was the same.. as if autonomously driven in spite of anything happening new, or being said new.
There I dissected that humorous memory.. The humor was in the dumb mob collective behavior. We get in some kind of trance, when we accumulate in proximity of each other. I don't think such apparent biological mob effect was evolved in human densities of urban tissues, or the no physical distance internet.
There I dissected that humorous memory.. The humor was in the dumb mob collective behavior. We get in some kind of trance, when we accumulate in proximity of each other. I don't think such apparent biological mob effect was evolved in human densities of urban tissues, or the no physical distance internet.
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